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Tom Lutz opens the show with a spirited introduction of co-hosts Kate Wolf and Medaya Ocher and author Leslie Jamison. Jamison is the author of the essay collection The Empathy Exams, the memoir The Recovering, and novel The Gin Closet. She joined us in Los Angeles to discuss a new collection of essays, Make It Scream, Make it Burn. Jamison describes her empathic approach to her eclectic subjects, her relationship to the body and how she thinks about writing and authorship.

Jenny Odell returns to recommend Robin Wall Kimmerer’s Gathering Moss: A Natural and Cultural History of Mosses.

Photo Credit: Beowulf Sheehan